How To Run Your Biz Without Hating Your Boss is the podcast where we tackle the uncomfortable truth that the boss making all those questionable decisions is staring right back at you in the mirror every morning.

Michelle and Sara are two business strategists who’ve helped hundreds of voice teachers, other music teachers, multi-teacher studio owners, performers, and even those serving these kinds of artists build long-term, money-making businesses while maintaining their values, peace, and creative integrity...

After years of being asked to create a podcast, they finally succumbed. And now they are here to share the hard-won wisdom you won’t find in generic business courses, or the “I did it, you can too” corner of the internet.

Bold discourse that doesn’t shy away from loving your fiercely while telling you the truth about yourself to your face, Sara and Michelle keep it spicy, silly, empowering, and most of all: relevant to today’s business owners in the performing arts.

These women are in the trenches every day, they’ve made mistakes, somehow lived to tell about it, and they want to share with you their hard-won thoughts on the personal and professional development needed to run your business, so you fall in love with (AND TRUST!) your boss.