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Fund Shack Private Equity Podcast

Released: 2026-05-05
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80 Episodes
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80 Episodes
Audio
Listen on Apple Podcasts
Released: 2026-05-05
© Fund Shack
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Where Private Markets Meet Reality | Secondaries Explained | Nigel Dawn | Fund Shack Ep. 85

Where Private Markets Meet Reality | Secondaries Explained | Nigel Dawn | Fund Shack Ep. 85

Private markets look stable… until they don’t. NAVs move slowly. Returns look smooth. Volatility appears contained.But none of that is tested until an investor actually tries to sell. That’s where secondaries come in. The secondaries market is whe
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Private markets look stable… until they don’t.
NAVs move slowly. Returns look smooth. Volatility appears contained.But none of that is tested until an investor actually tries to sell.
That’s where secondaries come in.
The secondaries market is where private markets lose their narrative and face reality.It’s where valuation becomes negotiation.
Where liquidity becomes optional.
And where the difference between price and value stops being theoretical.
In this conversation, Nigel Dawn, Global Head of Private Capital Advisory at Evercore, breaks down how secondaries have quietly become one of the most important forces shaping private markets today.
If you want to understand private markets properly, this is where you start.
What is the secondaries market in private equity?
The secondaries market allows investors to buy and sell existing private market assets, including fund interests and company stakes, providing liquidity in an otherwise illiquid asset class.
Why does the secondaries market matter?
It is the point where private market valuations (NAVs) are tested against real transaction prices, making it critical for price discovery, portfolio management and liquidity.
What are continuation vehicles?
Continuation vehicles are structures that allow private equity managers to hold high-quality assets for longer while offering liquidity to existing investors and bringing in new capital.
How large is the secondaries market?
Despite rapid growth, it remains small at roughly 2% of total private markets NAV, suggesting significant room for expansion.
What is the outlook for secondaries?
Growth is expected to accelerate, particularly in private credit secondaries, driven by demand for liquidity, portfolio management and new investor access.
What’s covered
Why secondaries are the true pricing mechanism in private markets The shift from stigma to strategic portfolio managementHow continuation vehicles actually work (and why they’re misunderstood)The difference between NAV and executable priceHow conflicts are managed in GP-led transactionsThe rise of private wealth capital in secondariesWhy private credit secondaries are the next major growth area
Chapters
00:00 Secondaries: where private markets meet reality01:26 What the media gets wrong about private markets03:00 From stigma to strategy, evolution of secondaries06:13 Why the market is still only ~2% of NAV07:45 Continuation vehicles explained10:30 Not “kicking the can” what’s really happening15:53 Conflicts, ILPA and investor protection19:28 How pricing works (NAV vs price)22:03 Retail capital and evergreen structures30:37 Liquidity solutions (NAV lending, strip sales, etc.)32:14 Private credit secondaries, next wave38:04 Has private markets lost its partnership model?
Secondaries are no longer a niche.
They are becoming the operating system of private markets liquidity, enabling:
Active portfolio managementReal price discoveryCapital recycling at scale
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Nigel Dawn is Global Head of Private Capital Advisory at Evercore.
He advises institutional investors, sovereign wealth funds and private equity firms on secondaries transactions globally.
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-dawn-9aa121/
🌐https://www.evercore.com/who-we-are/overview/
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Episode ID: 1000766233251
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Release Date: 05/05/2026, 17:20:46

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Private equity, venture capital and alternative investments - long-form podcasts with industry leaders
Dive into in-depth conversations with industry leaders and gain exclusive insights into the world of private capital.
🎙️Fund Shack is dedicated to providing thought-provoking, authentic discussions with the most respected private capital managers, asset managers, professional advisers, & thought leaders. Our long-form interviews are unscripted, ensuring genuine & enriching conversations. Hosted by Ross Butler, 25 years in the private capital industry.

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